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SHIRES CONFERENCE

21/22 NOVEMBER 2006

 

RURAL AGEING – TOGETHER WE STAND

Report on a two day conference at the Shirehall, Shrewsbury

On 21st and 22nd November 2006

 

CONTENTS

(Please click on the item you want to see, to return to the top of the page click on the blue Top links)

Background & Aims

Executive Summary

Conference Evaluation Forms

Conference Opening Address

The Constitution Debate

The Pensions Debate

White Paper on Local Government

Federation Workshop

The Way Forward

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Appendix 1 – Federation contact list.

 

 

BACKGROUND AND AIMS

The Chairman and Guests at the 2006 Conference

Together we Stand was the third Shires conference hosted by the Shropshire Association, and once again we received valuable sponsorship from Shropshire County Council extending to free use of the Shirehall, the provision of refreshments and internal conference transport, and of course the popular conference dinner hosted by Malcolm Pate, the leader of the council. We thank the council for this generosity, without which our fund raising requirements for the conference would have been daunting indeed. Together we Stand had a clearly stated major aim, which was to take positive and practical steps in the formation of a Shire Counties Federation of Senior Citizens Forums.

At our first conference in 2004, The Right to Enjoy not Endure, delegates from forums in 21 English rural counties firmly established that there was a commonality of problems facing older people in the rural areas of England. Though in general all older people throughout the nation have to face the consequences of years of neglect by successive governments, the impact on the individual varies depending on where that individual lives. The post code lottery does not only operate in the NHS. The root of the rural problem is caused by geo-demographics; small widely dispersed populations in large geographical areas. This is compounded by a declining population of younger people, largely due to lack of employment opportunities, and a growing population of older people partly due to retirement migration.

At our second conference in 2005, The Right to a Fair Deal, delegations from 26 of the English shire counties continued the discussion. This conference reinforced the findings of the previous year. All senior citizens get a poor deal, and have been let down by successive national governments. However, in vast tracts of rural England deprivation is in fact worse than in the inner cities simply because it is much harder to deal with. The cost of delivering services to a sparse population over a wide geographical area is far greater than for a similar sized but more concentrated population. Though central government concedes that this is so, it refuses to adjust the grant funding formula to reflect the reality. Is it really so unpatriotic and cynical of us to believe that governments put potential for votes ahead of the genuine needs of the population as a whole? We think not, conference 2005 thought not, and for that reason it was agreed to press forward towards the formation of our Shire Counties Federation.

The older population of rural England, though dispersed and often isolated, is collectively a large section of the UK electorate. If we can find a practical means to orchestrate the rural voice, we can add significantly to the general campaign fought by such organizations as the National Pensioners Convention, whilst being able to concentrate political perception on the special and specific needs of the rural pensioner.

At the same time all of the delegates at The Right to a Fair Deal realized that in the current climate, the bill for the consequences of national neglect has to be picked up, in the main, by local authorities. We in Shropshire recognized this at a very early stage in our development, and set out to build a grass roots organization (and a body of knowledge) that would enable us to engage effectively with the local authority in those many areas of local administration that have real effect on the quality of life of our members. To be able to do this properly it is necessary to try to build up a fair understanding of local government, how it works and who is responsible for what. Quite often the righting of a minor annoyance, such as the lack of bus shelter, can improve quality of life for a large number of people at a very low cost. The key to getting this done is by knowing which authority, at which level, is responsible for the omission in the first instance. And so on up the scale and through the tiers. There can though, be no doubt that the major influence on quality of life is exerted by the top tier of existing local government, that is, the County Council. For this reason we consider it essential that forums must seek some way, and it will obviously vary from county to county, to come together within their county area to form an effective ‘county’ voice. For this reason too, part of our plan for Together we Stand was to use some of the conference time to bring local government and forums together to discuss the principles and realities of meaningful engagement.

This then was the background to our third conference. Whether some, any or all of the aims were met is still to be judged. It was, however, gratifying to welcome so many of you; some old friends from previous conferences, some new faces; to Shropshire, and to share a stimulating exchange of views and collation of collective experience.

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2 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

Our guests are anjoying a drink and a chat

Once again Forum attendance was excellent. Invitations were sent to forum organizations in 31 counties. Delegates attended from 27 (including Shropshire). Two delegations had to withdraw at the last minute and two organizations did not respond to their invitations. There are three counties (including our next door neighbour Herefordshire) who appear not to have any forums. Once again we offer grateful thanks to all who did make the effort to come, and once again we can only take encouragement from the vigour and dedication of older people prepared to travel to the midlands from the length and breadth of England (and from Scotland) in support of the cause.

Age Concern and Help the Aged were represented as usual, and we were pleased to welcome a delegate from Better Government for Older People (BGOP). This time we were delighted to have two forum participants from outside the English Shires as well, in the shape of representatives from Newcastle upon Tyne forum and from Scotland. As we have publicly stated on several occasions, we would dearly like to see forum federations in the English Metropolitan Counties, and in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as well. Perhaps these were first tentative steps.

We invited several government ministers to come and address the assembled peasants, but all pleaded prior engagements. The list included the Chancellor, Gordon Brown, who was most gracious in his refusal and wished us every success. Ruth Kelly and Phil Woolas also turned down the chance to appear. David Cameron also declined, but we were delighted that our Shrewsbury MP, Daniel Kawczynski, was able to drop in and listen to one of the debates. I can report that he was hugely impressed by the quality and passion of the proceedings. As we had only intended to have one speaker at this years conference anyway, the lack of a minister did not detract too much from the quality of the conference.

As the timetable for the 2005 conference was adjudged a great success, this years conference was designed in a similar way, with an early start on day one and a half day programme on day 2 for the Forum delegates. In an attempt to boost local government participation, a separate one day event was devised for local government delegates, which interlocked at appropriate places with the second day of the main conference. It was believed that a one day commitment would make it more likely that appropriate officers could be released from other duties to attend the conference. In the event Local Government participation again fell short of expectations, and this time only six authorities outside Shropshire agreed to send delegates. Because of the low numbers, the local authority part of the programme was modified. Participation in the joint sections of the programme went ahead as planned, and feed back indicates that those local government officers who did attend enjoyed this interface with their forums. A single local government workshop then enjoyed intensive discussions on the meaning and practicalities of engagement.

2006 saw publication of the White Paper on Local Government, which was presented to Parliament in October 2006. This is a huge document (171 pages in volume 1) with 7 Annexes (59 pages in volume 2) and a separate 6 page summary of the whole. Along with the White Paper central government issued an Invitation to Councils in England to make proposals for future unitary structures or to pioneer, as pathfinders, new two tier models. Study of these documents made it apparent to us that the changes to local government proposed therein could have a marked effect on the way that local forums need to organize and operate if the proposed changes are made. We therefore asked Carolyn Downs, the Chief Executive of Shropshire County Council, if she would give a presentation to conference explaining the proposals and how individual authorities could respond. The resulting presentation was much appreciated by all delegates, and we would like to thank Carolyn for the quality of the presentation and her frank and open answers to the many questions asked.

The commitment and level of participation shown by all delegates was impressive, which resulted in lively and open debate throughout. Most of the activity took place in the debating chamber, with just a single workshop session when delegates split into area groups to identify and discuss perceived problems that will need to be overcome if the federation is to develop into an effective enterprise. Specific activities and outcomes are reported in the relevant sub sections of this document.

Once again the conference dinner was a successful social and networking event, though the direction and purpose of the speech by Malcolm Pate, leader of Shropshire County Council; charting the progress and development of local government through the ages; did not become fully apparent to most delegates until after the presentation on the Local Government White Paper by Carolyn Downs on day 2. We would like to thank Malcolm for being an excellent host again this year. We would also like to thank Jack Collier, the SCC Director of Community Services, who also joined us and gave an excellent speech. Perhaps the biggest thank you of all should go to Claire Brown, the Column Restaurant Catering Manager and her staff, who once again provided good food, good wine and the necessary ambience to allow us all an enjoyable evening.

A study of the replies to the conference critique (Section 3) indicates that the conference was adjudged successful by the people who matter, the delegates. It is apparent that everyone realizes that there is a great deal of work to be done to establish the federation as a major player in the quest for a fair deal for pensioners, but it is also obvious that the will to do it is there. Many delegates do point out that there is still a good deal of work to be done around the counties in forming effective county organizations. The encouraging aspect is that this process does seem to be happening in more and more counties since the first Shires conference took place in 2004. This will, of course, become a matter of primary importance when the proposals in the Local Government White Paper come into effect and County Unitaries become the norm.

The desire for better communication links and the provision of a Shire Counties directory has been addressed, and the basic directory appears at Appendix 1 to this report. Additions and amendments will be issued as they occur. As agreed at the conference, the Shropshire Association office will continue to work as the federation focal point during the steering committee phase, and will accept the minor funding burden implicit in this arrangement. The offer to provide a permanent office for the federation in Shrewsbury remains on the table, and indeed the Association has taken the first steps in securing improved office accommodation to enable this to become a practical proposition.

Finally, we would like once again to thank all the delegates who took the time and trouble to attend the conference, and to acknowledge their enthusiastic participation. Any conference anywhere can only be a success if the delegates make it so, no matter how well organized it might or might not be. We look forward to seeing you all again at Conference 2007.

The top table at the Conference Dinner.

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3. CONFERENCE EVALUATION FORM

The delegates are intent on the words of the speaker

Analysis of Delegate Responses and Selected Quotations

Critique Page 1

Please fill in the boxes using the following key:

1 Strongly Agree. 2 Agree. 3 Neither. 4 Disagree. 5 Disagree Strongly

1 2 3 4 5

Conference met expectations 33% 55% 10% 2%

Presentations were clear and concise 25% 45% 20% 10%

Refreshment was good and adequate 50% 40% 4% 4% 2%

The venue was suitable 75% 20% 3% 2%

Conference was well organized 70% 25% 5%

 

THE BEST THING WAS –

(where comments were repetitious only a selection has been published)

"The ability to interact and network with other forums and the airing of common views"

"Meeting people from all over the country and hearing their views and ways of working"

"Workshops"

"Very good company"

"Networking – getting good ideas and encouragement"

"The presentation at the dinner and the SCC Chief executive’s presentation"

"Well organized"

"Accommodation superb"

"The whole package – good debate"

"Learning more about the White Paper on Local Government"

"Learning how committed and energetic old people are"

"Differences between rural/urban areas were identified as were similar ambitions all of which require action"

"That there were nominations from different areas for the Federation Steering Committee"

"Participation from all delegates

"Keeping to the programme, the excellent dinner and chances to network, and illumination re the Local Government White Paper"

THE WORST THING WAS

" No list showing where delegates came from. A contact list, even in draft form, would be very helpful"

"Not enough people from the Eastern area turned up"

"Too long a time at meals – food for anyone with dietary problems"

"No time allocated to allow us to explore Shrewsbury"

"Amendments confusing – too long winded. The walk to the bus – waiting 2 hours for bus to station"

"Lack of suitable food for vegetarians, wheat allergies, etc"

"Too much time on dealing with the constitution"

"That there were not more nominations to the steering committee when it was known in advance (to the majority) that it was the intention to launch the federation"

"The absence of adequate finance to support the ambitions of those prepared to be involved"

" The questioning (I was unaware of previously) of OP’s organizations in terms of autonomy/democracy and their future relationship to any federation formed"

"When too many people were holding conversations about the proceedings while the speaker was trying to make himself/herself heard"

"Could have done with better seating arrangements for taking lunch etc."

"Lunch too long, time saved could have allowed earlier ending"

THE WORST THING (continued)

"Lack of common sense when asking questions plus the audience not respecting the speaker by having conversations amongst themselves"

"Having to wait until 8.30pm for the evening meal"

"Acoustics in the main chamber of the Shirehall"

"Very difficult to hear in the council chamber. Proposed amendments to the constitution should have been circulated prior to the conference"

"Sound not as good as previous year"

"Finding a councillor attending as a forum representative"

b) Critique Page 2

The back page of the evaluation form, which contains 4 questions, was not fully completed by every delegate. The answers given are therefore representative of the opinions of only some of the conference delegates. It has to be presumed as a result of the tick box analysis on page 1, that the majority of delegates were on the whole satisfied with the outcome of the conference and with progress made.

Question 1. Do you have a view about which of the approaches you have heard at

Conference would work in your county?

SUBMITTED ANSWERS.

"The need to develop a country wide structure"

"Find out more about our regional OPAG. Study how you have established contact with your county council"

"Surely the idea of a federation is for all counties to work together. The whole concept is a good idea and needed but I feel will be difficult to manage"

"Nearly all of them"

"Recruitment methods. Need for more members and more generous funding"

"My forum would have to decide after I have reported back to them. Also I would have to speak to another forum not represented here today"

"Have heard good ideas for arrangements of local forums which I will take back to my core group"

"Given me much to consider and take back to my forum"

"We need to wait and see regarding set up and enrollment of members"

"Considerably more thought and discussion is essential before projects are identified for early action together with a recruitment campaign for an effective volunteer work force"

"Details of networking"

"Yes. Start small with committed steering committee and keep communications going"

"Joint meetings and decision making"

"Ideas for attracting new members"

"I have many more ideas and feel gratified that my ideas up to now are shared elsewhere. Feel more encouraged to go on in the teeth of indifference"

Question 1 (continued)

"We need to form a county organization first"

"Will be excellent when it is up and running"

"Somerset has declared its Unitary intentions in the last week, so meeting to form a County Association appears essential. A (brief) checklist of guidance on running meetings to trawl for new members might be useful"

Question 2 What action do you think should follow from the conference?

"Lots of work for the steering committee"

"To start with a small federation and increase gradually"

"This will be taken to our next committee meeting so we can nominate a representative"

"Press coverage of the launching of a federation if possible. Each area will have to work on this, though some forums are less ready than others. When can we go public?"

"Allow delegates to consult with their forum members"

"Bring into line all outsiders"

"Continued communications"

"Communication lines one with another. Maximum publicity"

"Utilisation of networking and circulation of information"

" Develop the proposed data base to include all known forums and extend it as widely as possible. Regular progress reports to all"

"Regular contact between members of each area"

"Steering group decide on the way forward and initiate communications between existing groups/ members and stimulate recruitment and group formation"

"We definitely should have formed the nucleus of a federation"

"Keep us all informed"

"Formation of an effective steering committee to clarify the aims, objectives, funding and organizational arrangements"

" A positive lead from all active counties"

" A directory of all organizations concerned with the welfare of older people –closer cooperation with other similar local groups"

"Delegates should go back to their group and report on suggested federation"

"Formation of federation as discussed. Small to begin with then grow"

"Formation of a steering group and definition and level of development of independent forums"

" How about a website where we can place our ‘eavesdroppings’ about actions of govt. and other bodies plus an internet newsletter"

 

Question 3 Do you have any other comments or questions?

"I am very impressed by the relationship you have established with Shropshire County Council. At least some taxes are coming back to this sector. A national standard at this level would be a good achievement and a good starting point"

" Very difficult for delegates representing groups in other parts of the country to cope with the traveling to enable them to play an active part to enable the federation to be useful to them"

"Not until the conference report is read by my committee"

"Lord Hill annexe baths need grab rails – there is a risk of falling or slipping in them"

"A big worry on funding – present and future"

"Congratulations to the Shropshire committee for the excellent organization of the conference"

"Numbers count, especially with the potential to translate into votes"

"Who will print the contact directory and will it be distributed to everyone present?"

"The organization of the conference should be applauded. Excellent"

Question 4 Would you attend a future conference of this type.

95% of delegates answered ‘yes’.

 

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4. CONFERENCE THEME ADDRESS

John Dodson – Chairman – Shropshire Association

In the early days of the District Forums and Association here in Shropshire we decided that we should have a mission statement and defined aims. This is normal for many organizations but required careful thought to ensure that the serious importance is understood. The mission is the goal and the aims must be constantly referred to in order to achieve that goal. On the screen you see our mission and aims, they are:

The Mission

"To achieve a better life for our senior citizens so that they may enjoy, not endure, the autumn of their life"

The aims

To promote the welfare and interest of senior citizens.

To provide a platform where matters of concern can be raised, addressed and action taken.

To identify issues and objectives resulting from consultation with and information drawn from the members.

To present and negotiate the issues and objectives with all relative local bodies at both local and county level.

To ensure the all important cooperation and communication between District Forums and the Association to further our mission at Local, Shire, National and if necessary European levels.

At local level the all important grass root membership has addressed the aims and achieved some important initial success. The following is a brief selection of examples.

All our District Forums now engage with their District or Borough Council on many issues including their council tax precepts.

All our District Forums are represented on their Local Strategic Partnership committee that feeds recommendations into the Shropshire Partnership plan for the county.

One of our District Forums, as a project, has secured two specially fitted out cars to take elderly and disabled people on essential journeys – a particularly important service for Older People.

Another of our District Forums organizes Sunday opening of an Older Peoples Day Centre for Senior Citizens who live alone and who find Sundays particularly lonely.

At County level the Association has also had success in its aim to take up issues generated by the District Forums or on matters felt by the Association to be of importance to all older people throughout the county. Again I will give some examples

An excellent relationship with all directorates within the County Council, particularly Community Services. The Association now has a Grant Agreement with this directorate that sets out the activities in which the forum is involved to promote the welfare and interests of Older People across the county. It covers our activities, all freely entered and none imposed by the directorate.

The Association now chairs the Supporting People working group for the elderly and disabled and is guiding policy towards a more equitable method of providing services to people both in sheltered housing and in their own homes across the county. It is also helping to shape policy on how best to deliver the service.

The Association attends meetings of both Community Services and Health Overview Scrutiny Panels. It uses this involvement to raise questions and make comment on many aspects and issues where they affect senior citizens.

In cooperation with Community Services and Finance Directorates of the County Council we organize an annual round of Council Tax budget consultation meetings in all the districts covered by the District Forums. Very frank exchanges take place on issues of serious concern, especially proposed Council Tax rises and efficiency savings. These can result in changes in the proposals before cabinet and full council budget meetings. It is also normal for the chairman of the Association to address the Council Budget meeting in the opening stages.

The question is, are these examples of local and county involvement achieving our aims on the way to securing our goal? The answer has to be yes and no. We have achieved some successes but they remain comparatively small in relation to the overall picture. We have to keep the overall picture firmly in mind and acknowledge that we have to be prepared to play a long game to achieve the bigger impact so important in getting closer to the goal we have set. Make no mistake about it; we senior citizens though now making up 20% of the population and 35% of the electorate are still a long way from achieving the recognition that we are entitled to. On many issues that affect us, directly or indirectly, only lip service is paid to our demands, usually in the form of tick box surveys. There is not even a Minister for Older People at a time when most other minority groups seem to have a ministerial voice in government.

 

Let us look at some of the issues that affect all of us in the Shire counties:

Council Tax. Government admits that the formula for setting the annual rate support grant to our counties is weighted against the rural pensioner bearing in mind the additional costs of service delivery in rural areas, but no effort is made to adjust the formula. Nor do they make any demographic allowances. However, it gets worse. The government is now in financial crisis despite all claims to the contrary. The Lyons report, in which we and no doubt many of you here have been involved, is clearly seeking to find ways of raising extra funds from the taxpayer, by increasing current or introducing new local authority charges. Why else but to address potential short falls in central grants. In a recent meeting with two young ladies from the research department of the Audit Commission we were asked the question "what additional charges would you consider to be reasonable and not a burden to the rate payer?" citing waste collection as a possible example. Our answer was none, but if they were introduced we would expect a corresponding reduction in council tax. They seemed to consider this answer to be terribly unpatriotic. Whether collecting funds for local authorities is called ‘Council Tax’, ‘Service charging’ or any other name, we on fixed incomes will pay increasingly more and an increasing percentage of our incomes. We are already beyond the stage where our state pension or occupational pension increases are keeping pace with the demands placed upon us.

NHS. Last year the government boasted of pumping ₤90 billion into the NHS and yet all across England Primary Care and Hospital Trusts are in financial crisis. Here in Shropshire two so called recovery plans have been proposed. The first covers the PCT services, the second deals with the Hospital Trust, which has two hospitals, one in Shrewsbury and one in Telford. The PCT plan proposed closure of the 3 community hospitals in the county. After huge protests in which the Association played a major role, the hospitals have now been saved, but with major cuts in services including the closure of an Alzheimer’s ward in one hospital involving the movement of patients over 40 miles from their homes to another facility and bed closures in another. In tandem with this there have been changes (cuts) to community nursing provision across the county. The Hospital Trust Plan involved a proposed shuffling of services between the two hospitals, moving Urology Service away from the (central) Shrewsbury hospital, across to Telford on the very edge of the catchment area. All in the name of cost saving and efficiency but in our opinion not a lot to do with the needs and expectation of the patients. (Mostly older people in the case of the Urology service. I wonder how many of you here are encountering the same problems over NHS efficiency in your own counties.

Last year the Treasury announced a grant of ₤360 million for local authorities to fund free bus passes for pensioners. It sounded like a long overdue good move for the rural counties of England. Rural authorities have never had available funds or sufficiently profitable public transport systems to offer a concession already taken for granted in most metropolitan and urban areas. Here in Shropshire we expected that all five District and Borough Councils would offer the free bus pass for all senior citizens allowing travel at any time, across the entire county and over county borders. Sadly no. Only one district has done this. The rest have failed to make the full offer, with limiting factors in some way or another placed on their passes. Avoiding isolation and the ability to socialise in its broadest sense is vital to senior citizens for many reasons, not least of which is the fight against depression; an obvious fact that seems to elude the sensibilities of the planners. Yet again a basic need of senior citizens seems to have been avoided or forgotten, and I would imagine the same situation extends to most of the rural counties represented here today.

I believe that these three issues alone clearly illustrate the fact that on the one hand we are told that our engagement is vital and that we are being listened to – but when we get down to brass tacks – as we say in Yorkshire – many important matters relative to the needs of older people are firmly at the bottom of the list of government priorities.

No doubt you are all wondering why I have not yet mentioned pensions. Of course this is the biggest issue for all senior citizens. 2012 (or thereabouts) is a long time ahead and I gladly join the multitude who believe it a disgrace that government is saying that they must put off improvements until then, but only if they can afford it. The familiar old story doesn’t change. 2012 will be too late for about 3 million of us, and in the meantime those of us who do last the course will have to continue looking forward to the paltry annual increase as it is, the winter fuel allowance which has also failed to rise in line with the massive hikes in fuel costs, and the occasional pre-election hand out towards the rising cost of Council Tax. We must never forget that currently there are over 2 million pensioners living below the official poverty line, on meagre fixed incomes that will never lift them out of absolute poverty. Even worse, with spiralling basic costs that number will inevitably increase over the next six years.

By way of a postscript to a litany of subjects where government is talking positively and acting negatively it must be remembered that the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence periodically denies the availability of drugs that can help senior citizens in particular, drugs for Alzheimer and Parkinson sufferers for example. Economic viability is often cited as the reason for denial. It could not be concerned with ensuring that the older population is at a more acceptable level around 2012 to make pension increases more affordable, could it?

So where does all this leave us on that long and winding road towards achieving our goal.

The issues I have referred to plus many more affect all senior citizens but can have a more profound effect in the ‘unfashionable’ Shire Counties.

We can only rely on our own efforts to drive very hard to put right the wrongs that blight our later years.

The strength of our drive is directly related to our numbers and to how well we organize to ensure we are voicing a consensus of opinion.

We must get into a position where we can take our case directly to parliament and this can, I believe, only be achieved by organizing ourselves into a federation with a clear purpose.

"To achieve a better life for our Senior Citizens so that they may enjoy, not endure, the autumn of their life"

Failure to form a concerted Shire Counties voice is not an option, as this can only result in the ‘quality of life’ gap between rural and metropolitan areas increasing. The move to a federation can, I believe, only strengthen our determination to achieve the aims and mission goal. It will not happen tomorrow, nor easily, but it will happen if we remain dedicated to the principal of ‘no talk about us without us".

Finally, let me just read you extracts from some newspaper clips.

‘Welfare state is way behind’. Britain spends 11% of national income on social security. France 16.5% and West Germany 20%.

‘More pensioners on assistance’. The number of old age pensioners seeking aid rose to 1,120,000 in March.

‘Raw Deal’. The government says it wants older people to share in the country’s prosperity. However when they see increased pension entitlement for certain public sector workers they feel they are getting a very raw deal.

‘National Assistance is not the answer’. Many need it but are too proud to ask for it. They have never been able to accept something for nothing.

These extracts are from the August 1960 edition of the OLD AGE PENSIONER* DEMANDING JUSTICE FOR THE AGED*, the official publication of the National Federation of Old Age Pensions Associations – not much seems to have changed in the past 46 years. If you all agree then this is all the more reason for forming our federation and trying to change things once and for all.

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5. THE CONSTITUTION DEBATE

A proposed constitution was issued to delegates prior to their attendance at conference with a request for suggested written amendments to be debated in the conference chamber. Due to time pressures it was not possible to circulate the proposed amendments until delegates arrived at conference. The debate was a lively affair, and the proposed constitution was examined clause by clause. An agreed constitution was arrived at, but with some required additions that were suggested but not debated as time ran out. The suggested additions are included in the constitution in italics.

Shire Counties Federation of Senior Citizen’s Forums

Constitution.

1. THE NAME

The name of the organization shall be the Shire Counties Federation of Senior Citizens’ Forums.

2. OBJECTIVES

Principal objectives shall be to:

Promote the welfare and interests of all older people, particularly within the English

Shire Counties

b) Provide a platform where matters of concern to older people can be raised and the

relevant policies developed.

c) Act as an umbrella organization when making representations to any public or other bodies.

d) Promote policies as they affect older people.

e) Generally promote a positive view of the over 50’s.

f) Be democratic, non-sectarian and non-racial.

g) Be totally independent and not be connected either directly or indirectly with any political party or party political organization.

h) Be non profit making.

i) Liaise with but not be controlled by all relevant Local Authorities.

j) Develop direct access to National Government

k) Communicate and co-operate with similar organizations throughout the UK.

3 MEMBERSHIP

Membership of the Federation is open to senior citizens organizations dealing with the concerns of older people in a Shire County of England. (For the purpose of this constitution the definition of a Shire County shall be those Local Authorities defined as County Councils in the England section of the Local Government Almanac plus the East Riding of Yorkshire, Herefordshire and Rutland, plus other Unitary Authorities with a significant rural population. A list of such geographical units shall be maintained as Appendix 1 to the Constitution.)

To be eligible for membership of the Federation an Organisation or Forum must be membership based and must adhere to a valid and acceptable Constitution or Memorandum and Articles of Association; which Constitution or Memorandum and Articles of Association must be full compatible with the objectives detailed in this Federation Constitution.

4 GENERAL COUNCIL

The Federation shall have a General Council that will comprise 2 (two) nominated members from each Shire County. Nomination to the General Council will be by election within the member senior citizens organization(s) within that county. Nomination will be for a period of 3 (three) years. Members may stand for re-election at the end of that period. The General Council shall from within elect a Federation President, a Federation Vice President, a General Council Chairman and a Meeting Secretary. These elected General Council officers may hold office for 3 (three) years and may stand for re-election at the end of that period so long as they retain their county nomination to the General Council.

5 AREA COUNCILS

The Federation shall have 6 (six) Area Councils. (Make up of the National Areas is attached as Appendix 2 to the Constitution). Each Area Council will comprise 2 (two) nominated members from each County within the Area, at least 1 (one) of whom shall be a General Council member for that county, the other to be elected from within the county member organization(s). Each Area Council shall elect from within an Area Chairman, an Area Vice Chairman and a Meeting Secretary. Area Council members and elected Area Council Officers may hold office for 3 (three) years and may stand for re-election at the end of that period so long as they retain their county nomination to the committee. The purpose of the Area Council is to maintain links between counties in a ‘workable’ geographical area and to facilitate and enhance communication between individual counties and the General Council.

 

6 MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE

The Management Committee will comprise the 6 (six) Area Chairmen plus one further nominated member from each of the Area Councils. The Management Committee will from within elect a Chairman and a Vice Chairman. The management committee will appoint 3 (three) non voting Federation Officers, namely, a Chief Executive, a Treasurer and a Secretary. These 3 (three) officers may be paid staff or volunteers. The management committee, served by these 3 (three) officers will be responsible for the day to day conduct of Federation affairs. Additional non voting members may be co-opted onto the management committee to fulfil specialist functions.

7 MEETINGS

There will be at least 1 (one) meeting each year of the General Council, which will be followed by the Annual General Meeting (AGM) of the Federation. This may occur during a Shires Conference.

b) There will be at least 2 (two) Area Council meetings each year, one of which may occur during a Shires Conference. Both area meeting in any year will take place before the General Council meeting.

c) Management Committee meetings will be held at least 6 (six) times in each year. One of these meetings may occur during a Shires Conference.

d) At each level extra meetings may be called as required.

e) Voting decisions shall be resolved by a simple majority. At each level if required the Chairman shall have the casting vote.

f) minutes will be taken, retained and distributed by the appropriate meeting secretary.

g) At all levels a quorum shall be half the committee.

8 GOVERNANCE

a) The General Council may from time to time make such rules or bye laws as they may deem necessary or expedient or convenient for the proper conduct and management of the Federation and they may by such rules or bye laws regulate:

(i) the admission and classification of members of the Federation (including the admission of organizations to membership) and the conditions of membership and the terms on which members may resign or have their membership terminated and the entrance fees, subscriptions and other fees or payments to be made by members.

(ii) the conduct of members of the Federation in relation to one another and to the Federation servants.

the procedure at general meetings and meetings of the Federation committees in so far as such procedure is not regulated by the Constitution.

Generally, all such matters as are commonly the subject matter of guidelines to good governance issued from time to time by organizations such as the Charity Commission.

The Federation in general meeting shall have the power to alter, add to or repeal the rules or bye laws and the General Council shall adopt such means as they think sufficient to bring to the notice of members of the Federation all such rules or bye laws, which shall be binding on all members of the Federation. Provided that no rules or bye laws shall be inconsistent with, or shall affect or repeal anything contained in the Constitution.

c) This Constitution is a living document. It will be monitored and reviewed by the General Council on a regular basis to ensure its continued effectiveness.

9 Dissolution.

The Federation may be wound up at a statutory general meeting by a ⅔ (two thirds) majority of those present.

In the event of winding up any residual assets will be donated to a charity or organization with similar aims to the aims of the Federation.

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Our Guests unwind after the Conference Dinner

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Appendix 1 to theConstitution

Forums or County Forum organizations in the following Local Authorities

are eligible for membership.

Set out by area.

Northern Area

Cumbria, Durham, East Riding of Yorkshire, Lancashire, Northumberland, North Yorkshire

North Central Area

Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Nottinghamshire, Rutland, Warwickshire

Western Area

Cheshire, Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire

Eastern Area

Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Lincolnshire, Norfolk, Suffolk

South Central Area

Buckinghamshire, East Sussex, Hampshire, Kent, Oxfordshire, Surrey, West Berkshire, West Sussex

South West Area

Cornwall, Devon, Dorset, North Somerset, Somerset, Wiltshire

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6. THE CONFERENCE DEBATE

Pensions

Proposed by Mike Seale

There is an urgent need for a new and realistic approach to pensions.

Main Points from the Debate.

The current generations of Senior Citizens are the people who rebuilt the nation from bankruptcy in 1945 to the world’s fourth richest nation at the start of the 21st century. They are receiving a poor return on their hard work and investment.

The major reason for putting off any attempt even to start addressing the problem until 2012 is given by the government as ‘affordability’. This is nonsense. If restoration of dignity and a decent standard of living for pensioners was given a high enough priority by central government, and nonsensical and wasteful projects were given lower priority, affordability would not be a problem. The proper use of tax payers money is a duty of care which is increasingly being ignored by its’ custodians.

The need to use tax credits and other supplementary benefits to raise pensioners ‘out of absolute poverty’ is in itself an admission of years of neglect. The use of means testing in order to administer these is demeaning to the recipient and wasteful of tax payers money. All benefits should be consolidated into a fair retirement pension. The inland revenue already has systems in place to ensure that ‘rich’ pensioners are not overpaid by the state, and is much more efficient at collecting taxes than it is at paying out tax credits.

There should be only one definition of poverty. The idea that senior citizens can ‘get by’ on less than other sections of the population is reprehensible. The basic state pension should be at least equivalent to the national minimum wage for a 37 hour week.

The major threat to this country at the start of the 21st century is not terrorism, as our current leader would have us believe; nor is it global warming, that window of opportunity for stealth taxing chancellors. The major threat is the demographic time-bomb that will surely create a black hole in our economy within the next half century unless it is tackled now. Probably the major factor in the construction of the time bomb was the huge and rapid progress of medical science in the second half of the twentieth century, but there too lies the ability to defuse it. Medical science is no longer only about prolonging life by the eradication or cure of disease. It is now about prolonging active and healthy life. Making use of this astonishing improvement in the human condition should be at the heart of our long term plans for the future.

The voluntary sector, already a major contributor to the economy, relies heavily on active older people. It is about time that commerce, industry and government follows its’ lead and wakes up to the fact that useful working life does not end at the age of fifty or fifty five. The energy, talents, wisdom and judgment that come with age and experience need to be utilized to a much greater degree than is the case today.

It has to be fully recognized, in all quarters, that national wealth is produced by people who work. The national good depends on a successful workforce providing adequate revenue through fair taxation. With regard to payment of pensions, fair taxation can only be made possible by maintaining an adequate balance in the ratio of workers to pensioners. Governments have no money, they are the custodians of taxpayers money. By their nature, democratic governments tend to think ahead only to the next election. This short term thinking is not good enough if the demographic time bomb is to be defused.

To their credit, the current government is taking some tentative, hesitant steps towards finding a solution. They are though, as usual, backing away from the really difficult decisions. They are proposing a gradual increase in the state pension qualifying age in line with life expectancy. The retirement age for women will be raised from 60 to 65 over a 10 year period from 2010 to 2020. The qualifying age will then increase further to 68 by 2046 in gradual stages. In view of the rises in school leaving age, actual and proposed, since most of us started working, and in the increasingly hale and hearty state of older people in general, this seems not unreasonable. But is it enough and is it properly equitable to all of the population? We would go further and more quickly than appears to be the intention of the government.

The current government is backing off from reform in the public sector, which now employs 1 person in every 5 of the workforce. Can it be right to increase the private sector retirement age whilst refusing to tackle the early retirement culture in the public sector. Early retirement in the public sector must also be phased out, and public sector workers should be subject to exactly the same retirement regime as everybody else. To go further, the index linking of public sector pensions should also be phased out. Pension increases should, as in the private sector, be determined on the basis of what the pension fund can afford, rather than being funded by the tax payer. The only permitted index linking should be with regard to the basic state pension, which should rise in line with the rise in national earnings. This simple formula would ensure an equal share in national prosperity for everybody.

The use of proper incentives in the earlier stages of reform could prove to be the basis for a much more effective long term strategy. Compulsory retirement should be abolished. On reaching the accepted retirement age workers should be offered real incentives and the opportunity to continue in paid employment. This should be a legal requirement placed on the employer. It should be supported by a reasonable discount in the level of employers national insurance contributions for those workers retained on this basis. The reward for continuing in employment should be a worthwhile increase in the deferred basic pension on actual requirement. The basis for this scheme is already in place in the form of the existing deferred pension scheme.

The proposal that ‘There is an urgent need for a new and realistic approach to pension’ was carried by the conference.

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7. LOCAL GOVERNMENT WHITE PAPER

& ONE COUNCIL FOR SHROPSHIRE.

Carolyn Downs – Chief Executive – Shropshire County Council.

One Council for Shropshire will;

Keep council tax increases low – a maximum 3.5%

Save at least ₤7.8 million from day one

Join up services more effectively and clear up confusion

Help improve important services e.g. keeping the streets clean

Give Shropshire one, strong voice to fight for local people

Why change the way councils are run?

The Government agrees we have done as much as we can to get value out of the current system

The local government white paper asks councils to look at better ways of delivering excellent services

There are only two options; one council or a virtual unitary

No change is no option – for all of us

Option 1 : One Council for Shropshire

Councils can submit unitary proposals, but they must:

Enhance strategic leadership, give local people more power, promote value for money and deliver services fairly for all

Have a broad cross-section of support

Be affordable, be value for money and meet any costs of change from council’s existing resources

Help improve services

Option 2 : Enhancing "two-tier" working

Councils will have to put in place more effective working arrangements – "a virtual unitary"

These must deliver improvement – status quo is not an option

Continuing two-tier areas will have to deliver joined-up front-facing services and shared back-office functions

Government expects the same level of improvement and efficiency gains that new unitaries will be achieving

The Case for One Council

Value for money

The Government’s challenge

"Deliver value for money and effective, responsive services"

Our Plan:

No reductions in services

Service access points in all market towns

Countywide, consistent service standards and procurement of services

Better and fairer service e.g housing, car parking, economic regeneration and street cleaning

Value for money (2)

Council tax to be equalized in 3 years (min increase 0% and max 3.5%)

Council tax increases to be a maximum of 3.5% for 3 years – the lowest for ten years

Savings of ₤7.8 million annually from:

- Accommodation ₤ 400,000

- Employees ₤6,000.000

- Members Allowances ₤ 600,000

- Elections ₤ 80,000

- Information Technology ₤ 800,000

₤7,880,000

Value for money (3)

First 4 years

Support service savings ₤31.2m

Service improvement savings ₤ 8.0m

Total savings from unitary ₤39.2m

Less transitional costs (₤ 3.0m net)

Savings net of transition ₤36.2m

- Council Tax payer retains ₤26.2m

- Service Improvement ₤10.0m

 

Giving local people more power

The Government’s challenge:

"Give people the power and resources to make a real difference locally"

Our plan:

Around 27 local committees with new money to spend e.g. ₤20,000 per 5,000 voters

Will be able to make practical decisions for their villages and towns

Right to call on council chiefs to answer for their decisions

New town council for Shrewsbury

Strategic Leadership

The Government’s challenge:

"A strong and stable council taking the long-term view"

Our plan:

All out, four yearly elections

Leader elected by council for four years

Double the existing number of county-wide councilors from 48 to 96

Wider remit for scrutiny of other services

One, strong voice for Shropshire to compete with the city region

Timetable and next steps

Proposals: by 25 January 2007

Preliminary decision: end of March 2007

Government consultation: April to June 2007

Final decision: early July 2007

Interim Member board of councils; July 2007

Elections: May 2008 – four year term

In summary

One Council for Shropshire will:

Keep council tax increases low – a maximum of 3.5%

Save at least ₤7.8 million from day one

Join up services more effectively and clear up confusion

Help improve important services e.g keeping the streets clean

Give Shropshire one, strong voice to fight for local people

 

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8. DISTRICT FORUM TO RURAL FEDERATION

AREA WORKSHOPS

For the workshop session conference split into Area groups. In the interest of balance only two delegates from Shropshire entered their Area group workshop. The remainder of the Shropshire delegates held a separate Shropshire Round Table workshop which is not reported on here. Each area workshops was conducted under the chairmanship of a ‘neutral’. We would like to thank these facilitators for the effort they put in. Workshops were conducted using the following guidelines:

Select a spokesman to present conclusion to conference.

Select a scribe.

Suggested Discussion Points:

Current organisation of Senior Citizens Forum in your county.

How your Area Council might organize and function (bearing in mind that Area Councils were suggested in the draft constitution purely as an administrative and communications tool for the Federation, and not with a view to engaging with the authorities at Regional Government level. Each county provides 2 delegates to its Regional OPAG and therefore already has Regional input).

How the federation might organize and function bearing in mind the expense and geographical difficulties of convening the General Council.

Possible methods and sources of funding.

Creating an effective voice. The need for concerted action to represent the needs and aspirations of the fifth nation. (Rural England).

Try to agree at least 2 nominations for a federation steering committee, to be proposed at the workshop debriefing.

The success of the workshops was probably reflected by the passion and range of the debate in the workshop debrief. Many of the points raised were, as is to be expected, duplicated from area to area. For the purpose of this report therefore the main points raised have been analysed and are presented with no attribution to a particular forum or area workshop. Only the major areas of concern or agreement are reported.

 

 

Main Points From Workshop.

Not all forums, much less counties, have achieved the same stage of development, method of operation or levels of engagement with their local authorities. The same can be said about access to funding, which is patchy to say the least. There also seem to be different definitions of what a forum is or should be. In some counties local authorities or the national charities retain an element of control, usually linked to funding. However it is clear that most forums represented at the conference meet the ideal of being independent, democratic, member based organizations.

In some counties there is obviously some difficulty in securing a suitable interface between forums from that county’s urban and rural populations. It has to be recognized though that as these populations share the same local authorities, they share the same basic problems within their local area. This will become more rather than less apparent as the shire counties move to unitary or virtual unitary status.

Not all local authorities have the same attitude to their regional OPAGS and BGOP. Whilst some authorities (such as Shropshire) have delegated the responsibility for selecting OPAG delegates to the Senior Citizens Forum, others have not. It is also apparent that support for BGOP varies from county to county and region to region.

There was a spread of opinion concerning the proposed Area structure, ranging from ‘is it necessary at all’, to those who saw it as a vital element. It has to be stressed again, as expressed in the guidelines for discussion, that the area councils proposed in the draft constitution were never visualized as being vital to the function of the federation, but rather as a geographical convenience to enable easier face to face access between members, and perhaps as relay stations for communications.

There seemed to be general agreement that the federation could not be a monolithic, complicated structure, and that a small start with progressive growth might well be the best way forward. The idea of a steering committee to chart the forward path and consider and evolve methods of operation received general approval. Sufficient delegates came forward to enable the formation of a steering committee, though not as many as was expected.

Funding, as ever, was a much discussed issue. The two major issues to be faced are definition of the funding requirement - how much to do what? - and the actual fund raising process. It seemed universally recognized that trying to raise funds as a non constituted body is much more difficult than if constitution has taken place. There seemed to be agreement that seeking diverse sources was preferable to over reliance on statutory funding. Some forums seem unaware of the requirement for their local authority to publish a Voluntary and Community Sector Compact which should clearly lay down the framework of that authority’s VCS funding policies.

It seemed universally recognized that the key to creating an effective voice lies in good organization and high membership numbers. It was also recognized that this is the driving factor in the desire to form the federation. Just as a county organization with a large membership can be effective in raising local issues, aggregated representation of all those separate members by a combined body can surely demand to be heard at the national level. Giving expression to the common voice will be the only function of the federation and this simplicity of function must be born in mind in the construction.

The need to issue a register with communication details of all participants was seen as a vital first step in the process. This would enable forums and county organizations to make contact and communicate at the outset. The Shropshire Association agreed to compile this register and publish it with this report.

The majority of delegates identified the need for a clearer definition of what we are trying to build to enable a proper understanding of the information contained in the Constitution and the implications of membership. Some forums were obviously worried that full commitment to the federation might in some way dilute their independence or interfere with their chosen methods of operation.

A number of delegates felt unable to commit fully until further reference with their forum committees.

Three of our lady Delegates.

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9 THE WAY FORWARD

There can be no doubt of the intention of central government to carry out another local government reform. For whatever motives, it seems clear now that the current two tier (three tier if parish councils are included) structure of most of the shire counties will be replaced by unitary authorities. The East Riding of Yorkshire, Herefordshire and Rutland already operate as unitaries, and perhaps there is much to be learned from them. What is beyond question is that when the reform happens, it will be necessary for Senior Citizens Forums in the shire counties to re-organise their own operations to meet the challenge. In the first instance a county unitary will make it essential for forums to be able to project a ‘county’ voice if they are to be effective. However, the removal of district or borough councils, and the centralization of responsibility for all services into the County and Shire Halls will in all probability make the work of the district forums within the county even more important, to ensure that the local (district) voice is represented properly. This reform could therefore provide the impetus that is required to form county associations, and thus in an organizational sense, be of value to the federation.

"What are we trying to build - a liner or a rowing boat?" No doubt the nautical analogy was prompted by the fact that the very sensible delegate who asked the question lives on the coast. Perhaps the answer should be ‘a life boat’. A life boat to rescue the dignity and quality of life of those millions of our peers who are living, by the governments’ own admission, in absolute poverty; and the many more millions living in the grey area between absolute poverty (whatever that may be) and ordinary poverty.

At this stage it will perhaps put the federation issue into a more understandable perspective if we state what we are not trying to build. We are not trying to build some monolithic, bureaucratic structure with a finger in many pies and a full appreciation of none. We are not trying to build some kind of governing body to advise or even dictate how Senior Citizens Forums should organize and operate. It is demonstrably clear that all of the forums represented at successive Shires Conferences are fully able to organize and govern themselves and need no outside interference in that respect. All value their independence and long may they continue to do so. The building bricks are already in place and are already functionally assembled, to a greater or lesser degree, from county to county. Accepting that our plans are to utilise what already exists and combine it into a more efficient and effective voice for change, a voice with national as well as local resonance, the major issue of funding

can perhaps be faced by the steering committee with a degree of confidence not apparent during the workshop deliberations. "How much funding do we need?" This is a far more valid question than "what about funding", and only when this has been established can the steering committee examine the means and possibilities for raising the required amount.

The federation constitution bans party political activities and affiliations, and rightly so. Senior Citizens forum and thus the federation is about fairness and justice for older people; fairness and justice and party politics can be incompatible bed fellows. Increasingly in the modern age, party politics is more about keeping power, by whatever means, than about fairness and justice. Perhaps therein lies the key. The success or failure of a political party in a democracy depends entirely upon its ability to mobilize its supporters when it counts, at election time. The votes of the people are the voice of the people. Therefore any voice of the people that represents large numbers of votes is a voice that sensible politicians, of all parties, tend to listen to. A federation of shire counties forums, properly organized to collect, collate and express the needs and aspirations of a large number of grass roots, membership based affiliates, with similar and particular problems, will surely be a voice that will be heard.

A valuable contribution can be made by the various organizations that speak up for the rights of older people, but the most vital contribution of all will be that made by older people themselves, organizing themselves and speaking up for themselves. To a degree the National Pensioners Convention is a vital and valid voice that does this, but by its nature it has to concentrate on the generalities of the campaign for pensioners rights, rather than on dealing with the specifics that lead to the variations in quality of life and attitudes to older people in the different parts of the nation as a whole. We have repeatedly said, and would emphasise again, that the consequences of years of government neglect are faced and dealt with, in the main, by local authorities. How effectively they are dealt with depends to a quite unacceptable degree, despite the best efforts of the local authorities, upon where the older person lives. A major aim of the federation will be the establishment of a level playing field so that all older people, throughout the United Kingdom, can enjoy a dignified and properly funded retirement. For this reason, as we have stated before, our dream is that the Metropolitan Counties, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland will also take up the challenge and form their own Senior Citizens Forums federations. Attendance at the conference by Forum observers from Newcastle upon Tyne and from Stirling in Scotland may provide some small impetus towards the realization of this dream. The combined voice of five specific to need federations, plus the NPC, would surely represent a voters alliance that politicians would ignore at their peril.

The return of the Magi?

RETURN OF THE MAGI?

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Appendix 1 Federation Contact List.

Bedfordshire. Luton. James Stevens. jjc.stevens@ntlworld.com

01582 756321

Cambridgeshire Cambridge Robert Boorman robert@r.boorman.fsnet.co.uk

Rhona Boorman cambridgecope@hotmail.co.uk

01223 364303

www.cambridgecope50.org

Cheshire Tarporley Denise Pritchard dpritchard@talktalk.net

01829 732635

Cornwall Looe Beryl Tallin nancy@menaduecorner.freeserve.co.uk

01503 272352

Truro Kenneth Bell kenneth@bell4753.fsnet.co.uk

01872 274723

Cumbria Whitehaven Peter Johnstone peter.johnstone5@virgin.net

01946 693903

Christine Johnstone Christine.johnstone@virgin.net

Derbyshire Chesterfield Rita King

Derby Christine Fields 01332 666357

Langley Mill Mari Fowler MarFow@aol.com

01773 533390

Devon AGILE Jean Daley 01392 211561

Janet Crocker 01392 219834

Roy Abraham roy@rabraham.fsnet.co.uk

01803 866802

DPAF Albert Venison agveniso@ic24.net

01297 32747

Colin Hadley

Alan Caley 01647 231314

Thelma Caley 01647 231314

www.dpaf.isitfair.co.uk

www.seniorsnetwork.co.uk/webs/dpaf

Dorset Godmanstone Yvonne Rossiter sid.yvonne@btinternet.com

01300 341421

Charminster Jackie Allen jallen6285@aol.com

01305 266151

Durham Darlington Ken Brown 01325 381544

Darlington Mrs A Lax 01325 261325

 

East Yorkshire Bridlington Jean Wormwell jean@viking116.freeserve.co.uk

01262 602804

Withernsea John Chadwick pagerbrid@btinternet.com

01964 612702

www.bridlingtonpager.org

East Sussex Hastings John Appleyard JohnRAppleyard@aol.com

Lewes David Glen dgreameglen@aol.com

Rother Ron Sunderland Ron.sunderland@talktalk.net

Gloucestershire Gloucester Mick Churchward info@gopa.org.uk

Hampshire Eastleigh Diane Andrews diane.andrews@virgin.net

02380 403311

Jo Rood 02380 477909

www.espopf.org.uk

Basingstoke Maurice Lay Maurice.Lay@aol.com

Aldershot Frank Rust peterfrank.rust@ntlworld.com

01252 314376

Herefordshire Hereford Eugenie (Molly) Wood 01432 358143

Kent Herne Bay Harry Cheng hrry-cheng@yahoo.co.uk

01227 374293

Canterbury Ann Belworthy a.belworthy@btinternet.com

01227 366494

Thanet Elizabeth O’Reilly Elizabeth.oreilly@btinternet.com

01843 843378

Lancashire Chorley Patricia Bullock pbullock@ageconcernlancs.org.uk

01257 479020

Nelson Linda MacSween lindamacsween@btconnect.com

01282 442552

Lincolnshire Holbeach David Roberts Dehroberts@aol.com

Lincoln James Keay james.keay@ntlworld.com

Norfolk Dereham Emily

Millington-Smith gordon.hill40@ntlworld.com

01603 880621

Norwich Pauline Weinstein

01603 425154

Norwich Margaret Hill gordon.hill40@ntlworld.com

01603 452406

Northumberland Ashington Audrey Pepper 01670 818195

Ashington Jean Manuel 01670 818195

 

North Somerset Weston Ken Lacey arlington@bleadonhill.fsnet.co.uk

Super Mare 01934 624544

Trudy

Davies-Coleman 01934 417250

North Yorkshire Scarborough Sylvia Bonnett 01723 366501

Harrogate Jean East jeanwellhouse@aol.com

01423 781506

York Mrs M Johnson 01347 838222

Nottinghamshire Nottingham Joan Taylor cllr.joantaylor@nottscc.gov.uk

Oxfordshire Oxford Jean Davies jeandavies35@btinternet.com

01865 726630

Shropshire SASCF John Dodson john@johndodson.co.uk

SASCF Mike Seale office@sascf.org.uk

01743 244640

www.seniorsforumshropshire.org

Bridgnorth Margaret Cosh margaret.cosh@yahoo.co.uk

01746 714248

Market Eric Davies ericatriverside@btopenworld.com

Drayton 01630 655778

Oswestry Mary Marr marymarr99@hotmail.com

01691 662065

Shrewsbury Bill Harris wllmharris6@aol.com

01743 235176

S.Shropshire Pamela Larney 01694 722857

Whitchurch Betty Bateman betty@wem2.wanadoo.co.uk

& Wem 01939 236301

Somerset Taunton Diana Wilson diana.wilson@tesco.net

01823 286398

Minehead Jim Kent jim.kent@virgin.net

01984 640571

Bridgewater Malcolm Barnwell evaban@onetel.com

01782 282610

Staffordshire Newcastle Mike Reynolds jm@mreynolds73.freeserve.co.uk

U Lyme 01782 628855

Barbara Stoddart 01782 638384

Alan Brown allan.brown50@ntlworld.com

01782 282610

Stoke on Joy McGreevy admin@greypowernorthstaffs.org.uk

Trent Mary Freeman 01782 201724

Suffolk Stradishall Pam O’Garvaigh forum55plus@aol.com

014440 820201

Ixworth Alison Fairgrieve alisonfaigrieve@dsl.pipex.com

01359 230983

Bury St Ed. Ken Brooks brooksken@aol.com

Surrey Woking Cynthia Green 01483 859793

Warwickshire Rugby Brenda Hardy brendahardy1@hotmail.com

01788 571633

Nuneaton Dorothy Goodwin dorothy.goodwin3@btinternet.com

02476 366941

Wiltshire Devizes Val Vaughan valatholm@aol.com

01793 724142

Susan Sims 02476 366941

Gladys Scantlebury 01380 724377

Worcestershire Evesham Fred Kaler fred.kaler@btinternet.com

Kidderminster Valerie Jarrett valeriejarrett2005@yahoo.co.uk

01562 66905

Droitwich Spa Eve Freer evefreer2003@yahoo.com

01905 770580

Forum. Newcastle on Tyne Elsie Richardson huckleberry111@hotmail.com

Forum Stirling, Scotland Cathy Traynor

Help the Aged Debbie Beale Debbie.Beale@helptheaged.org.uk

01258 458406

Age Concern Dorset Hilary Foggo forums@acdorchester.org

01305 269444

BGOP Liz Mandeville lynne.cutts@nottscc.gov.uk

0115 977 3234

NPC (and Solihull Forum) Sid Ashby Syd.ashby@cspa.co.uk

0121 705 6448

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